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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9365</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s crucial to understand at more than a superficial level the causes of the most recent dramatic upswing and the role that our use of land and energy play in the current climate change phenomena.  That understanding and our intelligent response to it will determine how many people and other living things Earth will support and at what level of richness in the coming decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s crucial to understand at more than a superficial level the causes of the most recent dramatic upswing and the role that our use of land and energy play in the current climate change phenomena.  That understanding and our intelligent response to it will determine how many people and other living things Earth will support and at what level of richness in the coming decades.</p>
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		<title>By: etbnc</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9361</link>
		<dc:creator>etbnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our blog host wrote a careful analysis of the portion of the graph that no longer follows the previously periodic pattern.  The data comes from NASA, an organization that just might know a thing or two about planetary orbit.

Do the blogger and regular readers think about the cause of the most recent variation?   

Yes. 

We do.

And because we do think about that variation, we have become concerned enough about its implications that we try to assist others to understand it also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our blog host wrote a careful analysis of the portion of the graph that no longer follows the previously periodic pattern.  The data comes from NASA, an organization that just might know a thing or two about planetary orbit.</p>
<p>Do the blogger and regular readers think about the cause of the most recent variation?   </p>
<p>Yes. </p>
<p>We do.</p>
<p>And because we do think about that variation, we have become concerned enough about its implications that we try to assist others to understand it also.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Yusi</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9359</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Yusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 400k year chart provides all the information we need.  We are in a cyclical pattern the repeats every 100k years.  Notice the last drop was the lowest in the chart.  The current high is lower than other highs and appears to be stagnating.  Is anyone thinking about the cause of variation resulting in the variation we see over 400k years?
Does anyone realize the orbit of the earth is not constant in shape but varies over a hundred thousand years from near circular to an elongated ellipse?  Or our we just fascinate with the bark in the tree or the pimple on the end of our nose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 400k year chart provides all the information we need.  We are in a cyclical pattern the repeats every 100k years.  Notice the last drop was the lowest in the chart.  The current high is lower than other highs and appears to be stagnating.  Is anyone thinking about the cause of variation resulting in the variation we see over 400k years?<br />
Does anyone realize the orbit of the earth is not constant in shape but varies over a hundred thousand years from near circular to an elongated ellipse?  Or our we just fascinate with the bark in the tree or the pimple on the end of our nose?</p>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9250</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme, since you continued to rant, rave, and curse. I deleted your last five comments and have locked out your IP address.  Please, get some psychological help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme, since you continued to rant, rave, and curse. I deleted your last five comments and have locked out your IP address.  Please, get some psychological help.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9245</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme,

You haven&#039;t bothered to provide support for your views.  Be civil, engage in reasoned discourse or be banished.  I haven&#039;t time for irrational ranting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme,</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t bothered to provide support for your views.  Be civil, engage in reasoned discourse or be banished.  I haven&#8217;t time for irrational ranting.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9241</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMB, take it up with http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html, which is the source of the data used in the graph of the last 1,800 years.  And be civil in your comments.  I&#039;ve no interest in promoting vulgarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMB, take it up with <a href="http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html</a>, which is the source of the data used in the graph of the last 1,800 years.  And be civil in your comments.  I&#8217;ve no interest in promoting vulgarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lying Filth Named Trinifar Misleading People On Industrial-CO2 &#171; A Better World: Graeme Bird For High Office</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lying Filth Named Trinifar Misleading People On Industrial-CO2 &#171; A Better World: Graeme Bird For High Office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9070</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terje, I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t want to be trashing the global commons while you are on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terje, I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t want to be trashing the global commons while you are on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Terje Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terje Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll be especially annoyed if homo sapiens is one of those that goes missing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How long will you be annoyed for? Not long I suspect. I suppose if it happens this century then the prospect of the event would annoy me. However if it happens 500 years from now then why get excited? As I see it our species will die out one day. Assuming that me or my loved ones are not there to witness the event then it matters little if it is in 500 years time or in 500,000 years time. 

And given that we are all going to die one day does it matter overly if we all do it on the same day? I&#039;m more concerned (rationally I believe) about getting hit by a bus than in being part of the final moments of humanity. 

Of course if we can defer the moment at which humanity snuffs it then I&#039;m supportive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ll be especially annoyed if homo sapiens is one of those that goes missing.</p></blockquote>
<p>How long will you be annoyed for? Not long I suspect. I suppose if it happens this century then the prospect of the event would annoy me. However if it happens 500 years from now then why get excited? As I see it our species will die out one day. Assuming that me or my loved ones are not there to witness the event then it matters little if it is in 500 years time or in 500,000 years time. </p>
<p>And given that we are all going to die one day does it matter overly if we all do it on the same day? I&#8217;m more concerned (rationally I believe) about getting hit by a bus than in being part of the final moments of humanity. </p>
<p>Of course if we can defer the moment at which humanity snuffs it then I&#8217;m supportive.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
		<link>http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/creation-of-a-different-planet-part-3/#comment-9063</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinifar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terje, 

&lt;em&gt;The graph of the last 150000 years might suggest that a warming bias is no bad thing.&lt;/em&gt;

You mean, like we may have saved ourselves by postponing the next ice age?  Yeah, I noticed that too.  Little consolation though if the temperature continues upward.  Missing the deep freeze only to end up in the frying pan is not a win.  ;-)

&lt;em&gt;The graph also suggests that mother nature (ie the bioshpere) has a track record of enduring massive shifts in temperature even over quite recent timeframes.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, I think mother nature is going to be fine in any case.  What bothers me is removing the richness of the biosphere, for example in the number and diversity of species.  I&#039;ll be especially annoyed if homo sapiens is one of those that goes missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terje, </p>
<p><em>The graph of the last 150000 years might suggest that a warming bias is no bad thing.</em></p>
<p>You mean, like we may have saved ourselves by postponing the next ice age?  Yeah, I noticed that too.  Little consolation though if the temperature continues upward.  Missing the deep freeze only to end up in the frying pan is not a win.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>The graph also suggests that mother nature (ie the bioshpere) has a track record of enduring massive shifts in temperature even over quite recent timeframes.</em></p>
<p>Oh, I think mother nature is going to be fine in any case.  What bothers me is removing the richness of the biosphere, for example in the number and diversity of species.  I&#8217;ll be especially annoyed if homo sapiens is one of those that goes missing.</p>
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